Mature and rational responses to feminist critique of fantasy/video games

"Lets see: on one side theres Mythic and GW: two private companies who own and license ID and can do whatever they want with it. On the other side theres you.

Instead of ing don't bye the game; we got enought of a server population problem as it is. Go play wow and jerk off to your dancing night elves. Leave WAR alone."

- gingil

"Also, I find it offensive that you find chivalry offensive! How dare you, when I man treats you with respect it should be an honor. You want to be treated equal when women clearly are not. Men are stronger, men are taller, men are DIFFERENT. Not only physically, but mentally men and women are differant and once you get that through your thick skull we can all be happy. Men are chivalris because women are smaller and weaker and that is what man is for. Defending his female, and treating her with respect is a way of defending her emotionally. Do you want a man to treat you like he does his buds? Like punching in the shoulder, and laughing about it. Wrestling, and cracking jokes. Anytime I've ever cracked a joke to a female she got mad. So obviously you wouldn't want that.

I can understand you not wanting us to abuse you but honestly, come on... It's not that bad..."

-ejenkins42

[about the above poster] "You're looking into a mirror here. This is the version of you from the other side. Equally as far right as you are left."

- Dreiden

"Vikings and barbarians aren't PC. You'll cast your spells and like it, wench."

- DogOfWar

"There -need- to be gender roles, and men are not some supreme rulers looking down on women in that case.

Men are expected to be manly.

Women are expected to be womanly.

Equality, does not mean absence of gender roles. Equality, is having equal stats regardless of what sex you play.

As for this whole chick bimbo thing, well, what do you expect? EA is a business like any others, and it has a specific clientele it hopes to reach. That is, the middle-class white man.

Dismantle "Sexism" and you might as well dismantle human social behavior in its entirety."

- Samedi

"Well, a lot of history majors who suffered under feminist professors immediately get turned off whenever "agency" and "woman" appear in the same block of text. I know I started having flashbacks."

- Cavell

"this game is sexist cause all the male characters are our typacal fighting characters, there no male that just stay home witht eh kids, there all fighters!

its just a big stereotype!"

- warmaster670 [Oh the irony]

"I wonder if the Warhammer universe empowered women while disciminating against men if we would have this same argument. There are plenty of examples of fantasy where that is the case. Maybe one of them will make an MMO..."

- lycosa [Lol, drows?]

"I was raised by a family of strong women, and I respect them. I believe in women in the military, equal pay, and all of that. If men could be considered feminists, I would (at the risk of sounding transexual or something) declare myself as one. But making insignificant claims of sexism, with not actualy evidence, over an item of artistic license, and even more than that A DAMNED FANTASY VIDEO GAME, boils my blood because you are lessening actual feminist issues. Not only is this not even close to the most important issue for the developers (gameplay is), but I am convinced that your being this damned annoying about this issue actually hurts the feminist cause."

- JakeSnake888

"Erm... *smashes head on table*

So how the hell are you supposed to depict women? Everything is Racist, Everything is Sexist. Damn that Queen elizbeth what a Sexist Whore, How dare she be a ruler with great power - that's just a stock character right?"

- NoneSuch

"I wonder how long a feminist would last in a Chaos Warband? I'm guessing... about 30 seconds. Seriously, I'm all for gender equality and everything, but this is Warhammer, not Candy-Land."

- Lucenius [FEMINISTS LIVE IN CANDYLAND]

Exchange with DeKNF3:

Him: "You're preemptively characterizing certain arguments as illegitimate. Most likely the ones that don't support your original opinion. That's usually not a characteristic of someone who wants a honest discussion, it's a characteristic of an agenda pusher or a troll."
Me: "So which legitimate arguments am I characterizing as illegitimate?"
Him: "The ones you claim you've preemptively dismantled. Don't you even read your own posts?"

"I hate to say it but:

QQ More. My wife doesnt think the game is sexist for not including certain classes as females, the reverse is also true for witch elves for example.

Hardly "Sexist" if it gos both ways.

However your on your little crusade, your rage against the machine and you wont hear reason or logic. This thread is useless. Just another whine, disguised as a legitimate post."

- Yasmir [ GUYS HIS WIFE SAYS SO IT'S OKAY ]

"Edit: To spare the harsh words, I'll some it up: Nice job on the effort, but this is pathetic and it makes me lose my faith in humanity that people will complain about something like this. It's in the lore, deal with it."

- Fireguardian


Enjoy.